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Dorian
Posted 2010-11-15 9:49 PM (#52720)
Subject: Free motion quilting



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Ok, I don't know if I am missing something or if I just don't get it. LOL.

I have blocked my feed dogs (I can't disconnect/lower them), I set my stitch length to 0...I've left my stitch length at the largest number...I've left my presser foot up and I've put my presser foot down...and I can't get my fabric to move! LOL...Jed got it to move, by pulling it real hard...but I don't can't move it simply and easily...even once it gets going, it's hard...

help 

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Quilt Mama
Posted 2010-11-15 11:00 PM (#52727 - in reply to #52720)
Subject: Re: Free motion quilting



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Presser foot has to be down and the person is the mover. That's the only way you get free motion. Are you sure you are using the darning foot? It shouldn't be clamping the fabric down like a regular foot. I always have trouble until I get into rhythm that my fabric moving too freely, in other words, I am a klutz and haven't got everything co-ordinated. Sorry, Dorian, that's all I can suggest right now.
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debbieann
Posted 2010-11-16 12:20 AM (#52733 - in reply to #52720)
Subject: RE: Free motion quilting


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debbieann
Posted 2010-11-16 12:21 AM (#52734 - in reply to #52720)
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Dorian, boy do I hear you. I have the exact same problem. Dogs blocked and settings like you and holy #(@* I have to have a tug of war to get the fabric to move. lol m there is nothing free or motion there.

Mine is a Kenmore I bought new in 1985, not real fancy but had a few stitches. But those dogs just don't drop or cooperate.

Several ladies at guild tried to 'teach the old dogs new trick' lol they didn't listen.

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scraphappydenise
Posted 2010-11-16 12:55 AM (#52736 - in reply to #52720)
Subject: RE: Free motion quilting



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Dorian - how did you block your feed dogs if they don't go down?

I have seen tutorials, where the quilter says they like the feed dogs up, but they set the stitch length to zero....this way the feed dogs are basically not working at all.

I am assuming that you are using the darning foot, or a free motion foot. MAKE sure that the spring is ABOVE your needle screw! If it is below, then you won't get the foot action you need.

You need to lower your presser foot to get the right tension. Foot up will give you large loops all over the back.... believe me.... I've done it before.

With the spring above your needle screw, and the foot down, there should still be room below the foot to move the quilt sandwich around. the foot will "bounce" so to speak, but will not actually apply pressure to the fabric.

Hope this makes sense.....
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buggalugs
Posted 2010-11-16 5:48 AM (#52738 - in reply to #52736)
Subject: RE: Free motion quilting



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Dorian sweetheart you need a darning foot, it just rests on the fabric and doesn't hold it down. Have you blocked off the feed dogs by using card? DOn't forget, YOU have to move the fabric where you wat it to go, and it should glide easily, if not you definitely have the wrong foot on.,

One more thing I would add is when you want to stop, make sure you hold your fabric in place, cos it will slip and you will not start in quite the same place i.e. you will have a long stitch where the cotton has pulled through.

Good luck sweetheart xxx

Jacqui

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debbieann
Posted 2010-11-16 8:12 AM (#52740 - in reply to #52720)
Subject: Re: Free motion quilting


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Dorian - I don't know about you BUT I had a plate that fit over where the feed dogs -once I did that and put the foot down nothing moved. Then did it with the cardborad thingy still same thing. We concl;uded it was the fott-dropping part. I don't have a lever-button-switch or anything that can adjust this presserfoot. If I didn't put it down and just let the needle go it sort of worked but loopy and messy. My problem is the tension or something in 'putting down the presser foot'

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm Dorian can you adjust your presser foot ? Maybe that is the key to yours. Sorry it took me awhile to think of that one. Brain is on medical leave.lol

Hugs and stitches

Debbieann
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Dorian
Posted 2010-11-16 8:50 AM (#52742 - in reply to #52720)
Subject: RE: Free motion quilting



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Thank you Ladies.

I put a piece of slim cardboard over my feed dogs. I do have an open toe foot, it's not a round one, but the book calls it a darning foot (it came with my machine). 

Hmmm, Debbieann, you might be right! I do think I can adjust the presser foot. Maybe thats what I have to do.

ROFL, yes, I understand that *I* have to move the fabric...but it just didn't want to go anywhere. LOL

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scraphappydenise
Posted 2010-11-16 10:33 AM (#52751 - in reply to #52720)
Subject: RE: Free motion quilting



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Dorian, could you please post a pic of your set up? Maybe I can help more that way..... Your foot should have some kind of lever/spring action on it if it is a darning foot.

When you describe "open toe", I think of a cording foot, or embroidery foot which do apply pressure to the fabric.

Is your machine a short shaft, straight (not slant needle) machine? If it is.... I have an extra free motion foot I bought for my viking that I traded in, but I kept the foot. (Big foot). It is an after market universal style, so if you could use it I'd be happy to send it to you. I am making a post office run sometime today, so maybe I'll pop it in the mail "just because"...... it's lightweight so won't cost much to mail.



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Dorian
Posted 2010-11-16 3:30 PM (#52762 - in reply to #52720)
Subject: RE: Free motion quilting



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Denise,

Yes, it's a short, straight shaft.  Looks like I was using an embrodiery foot  No wonder it wouldn't work. LOL

I would love to give that foot a try, thank you 

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misisipimenace
Posted 2010-11-16 5:03 PM (#52767 - in reply to #52762)
Subject: RE: Free motion quilting



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dorian, your book might be calling that a darning foot, but it doesn't look like any other darning foot i've seen . . .

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scraphappydenise
Posted 2010-11-16 7:07 PM (#52775 - in reply to #52720)
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Dorian - what machine are you using again? I sent that foot to you this morning.... Hope you can work with it.... I have at least two other back up feet for free motion. You should receive it by Friday.

Your foot attaches differently? at the back? or is that a screw hole in the side of the presser foot shaft?
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scraphappydenise
Posted 2010-11-16 7:57 PM (#52778 - in reply to #52720)
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ok, I went back and read where you are using an old White machine... a rotary?

check out this website!!! http://sewingmachine221sale.bizland.com/store/page45.html

look under "old rotary" and halfway down the attachment section, is a darning attachment that is available....# SSCS for $4.95 shipping is under $4.00. this spring hooks around the needle, and there is no foot attached at all!   It does mention free motion quilting in the description. 

fIf it won't work on your antique white machine, just feel free to use the foot I sent on one of your other machines....

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Dorian
Posted 2010-11-17 8:37 AM (#52789 - in reply to #52720)
Subject: RE: Free motion quilting



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Cindy, I could be mistaken...it's been known to happen

WOW, that's cool Denise. I have looked at looked at site like that, for presser feet for my white, and never saw that before. Thanks!

See that round screw/nut thing that goes around the shaft? I unscrew that a bit, and then the foot attaches to it. The foot has a slit in it, that goes on either side of the shaft, and the round screw/nut thing clamps it on. 

((HUGS)) And thank you Denise, for sending me the foot. If it wont work on my White, I'll try it on my New Home. You are so sweet. 



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Quilt Mama
Posted 2010-11-17 10:15 AM (#52797 - in reply to #52720)
Subject: Re: Free motion quilting



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In quite a few books on machine quilting it mentions that the hoop part that floats near the fabric is really only a finger protector. So a darning foot with the spring but not the bottom has really all you need. The big thing always said ir to remember that the presser foot must be in down position to quilt successfully.
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